The .223 Rem. Either way, I'd be reloading for him, so I recommended the .243. Copyright © 2000-2020 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. The 22-250 is a good choice but burns more powder to do the same thing you will have the .223 do. Kinda like a 338, been lookin for a good bdl 338 for a spell now, caint find one, Why not have both, you can’t have too many guns!!!!😊😊😊😊😊😉😉😉😍. 223 WSSM vs the 22-250 Rem. that rifle was the only one for a long time and taught me volumes about rifle shooting. Some states won't allow .22 caliber for deer. There’s a lot of overlap with the .243 and .22-250 in that they both will work well with varmint-weight bullets, but if you want to go up to 80+ grains for deer or pronghorn, the .243 is the one to take you there. But I found with the 22-250 when I found a load that works I stuck to it and never changed. The 22-250 and 223 both are used for varmints. The .243 Win. The reason I'm asking, I'm in the process of getting a 22 cal 8-twist barrel (I have a butt-load of heavy bullets) and I'm having a difficult choice between the 220 Swift, 220 Swift AI, 22-250 or the 22-250 AI. whether a bullet varies by .025 would depend more on the velocity it was calculated. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .22-250 Remington vs .243 Winchester ammo rounds. The .223 filled a gap between the .222 Remington and the larger .22-250 round, and serves as an excellent general small game and varmint round. Even with the 40 round boxes of Winchester white box at $34 today its still a bargain. 22-250 vs 223. by petemacsydney » Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:12 am Thank you for liking & subscribing.These are the follow-up vids,https://youtu.be/YkY1k9vSskUhttps://youtu.be/jIYtYNBybl4https://youtu.be/6QINvtbu2vU Please … *Speed will compensate for drop to a point. As you can see in the photo below, there are some pretty major differences between the .204 Ruger, .223 Remington, .22-250 Remington, and .220 Swift cartridges. It always does what it's supposed to. Particularly for killing big NY yotes the 243 is king and makes a case for power being able to over come poor shot placement, the 22-250 a 243 wanna be, and the 223 capable but shot placement a requisite, particularly if you have used a 243 before. In my experience, the 22 250 is far superior if you plan on shooting beyond approximately 250 yards at coyote sized varmints / predators. My father just whacked a deer with my .243 a couple of weeks ago. Plus the 22-250 is a barrel burner I can get some hellacious velocities from the 22-250. Remington has had an unbridled love affair with the .22 centerfires; I count six cartridges in this caliber that bear the Remington headstamp. 22-250 and 243 are good cartridges with their own pros and cons . Why not have a 22-250 if you can afford to buy and keep one? and start shooting. In 2003, Winchester Ammunition, Browning and Winchester Firearms introduced two of the most exciting varmint calibers to come down the pipe in decades—the 223 and 243 Winchester Super Short Magnum (WSSM) cartridges. 22-250 vs 223. ... 22-250 a heap of noise for not much really, want faster better going 243 rather than 22-250 or in failing that a .257 roberts or 25-06 or something. Higher bc doesn't have anything to do with pushing it faster, and increase in 100-200 fps in the lower bc bullet will more than make for up for the approx. The 223 Remington is perhaps the most popular caliber out there. I've had a few 22-250's and am re-barreling a "shot out" Remington 700 243 to 22-250 now, I'll be out of 243's for a while -- until a good priced one comes along. The .243 again is more costlier to shoot when you compartmentalize it into your desired shooting style. 22-250 vs 223 vs 204 Ruger vs 220 Swift: Cartridge Sizes. Seems to me the 22250 is a waste of powder. far eclipse all other cartridges in the .22 bore size in popularity and therefore in commercial ammunition and production rifle availability. If it were 6mm vs. 22-250, I'd pick the 6mm. You could actually take deer sized animal with the 22-06 with ease. On the other hand, if one goes to far in the fast twist direction they prpbably won't have optimum performance for the bullets on the other end of the spectrum due to them coming apart and/or decreased velocity due to more barrel drag. My savage in 22-250 is a pleasure to shoot. The 243 is also quite impressive with the 55 gr Ballistic Tips, which are a good 200 fps over the 22-250 55 grain Ballistic Tips. is a .308 Win. I have a 22-250 and kills deer (53 grain TSX user here) like the hammer of Thor. first rifle I ever bought was a used Browning A bolt 22/250 stainless stalker in 1999 from a gander mountain in Bloomington MN. Never saw a 22-250 need in my neck of the woods. that has been necked down to .243. Sold it and kept the 22-250. Those plastic tipped bullets didn't exist for a long time, let along good 40 grain bullets. All have their advantages/disadvantages. Visit the SWFA.com site to check out our current specials. By contrast, .223 Remington tends to produce lower chamber pressures between 52,000 and 55,000 psi, going by SAAMI specs. Joined Feb 28, 2011 Messages 2,480 Location Cincinnati, Ohio. That will allow you to hunt all the plainsgame species, and they are not as wind sensitive as the .223. While the .222 Remington was the undisputed accuracy king for quite some time, the two most popular are the .223 Remington and the former wildcat .22-250 Remington.We’re all familiar with the abundance of .223 ammunition available, and you … A 100 gr .243 carries about 32 grains of powder and a .308 carries about 43 grains of powder with a 150 gr bullet. The 25-06 is quite a bit bigger than the 223. Ed k. Why own a 22-250, if someone can sell me I will listen. Well, in our opinion the .22-250 wins hands down. Savage makes a 1 in 7" twist chambered in .223. my swift is 1-14 which is one reason for such high velocity. .025 better bc. If you want just 1 rifle the 243 has the ability to be a MPBR/old school varmiter right slong with the 22/250, but a much better Deer?antelope rifle. If terminal muzzle energy is your primary concern-thats a different topic. 243 will have a bit more knockdown with the option of using it for deer, etc as well if you wished. The 22-250's day in the sun may be past, but twist it at 1/8 and it becomes a useful tool again. correction- I was taking a previous poster's word that .224 55 grain ballistic tips were .25, while they're actually .267. This is a silly argument either way as to which one is "better". The Tikka T3 Lite in made in 8" twist in 223. Just my 2 cents. The .243 is a big step up from the .223, but if a .223 is your only current rifle, I would go for a 270/30-06. It would be switch barrel set up where if I wanted to change I'd just unscrew the barrel, and depending on powder differences, re-zero (which should only take a cople of shots because only the barrel is removed. I shoot my 6mm with the 58s at 4200 fps. and .22-250 Rem. ajacinto said: So I want to get my hands dirty with shooting and reloading. The 243 shoots 55s faster than 55s from the 22-250, and has higher bcs to boot. The Tikka T3 Lite in made in 8" twist in 223. 47 posts • Page 1 of 2 • 1, 2. I have had 243's but was never impressed. Another point is that from a historical standpoint, the 22-250 and other big 22s used to have a more clearly defined niche. #I would like to know which of the following calibres is recommended for #best accuracy with the longest range? are the only popular cartridges with duel varmint and game animal hunting capability, which makes them relevant for this article. I've owned 6 or 7 ea. So, the 22-250 would have slightly better life than 243, but close enough to not be a deciding factor at all, the 6.5 Creedmoor will have MUCH better life than these 2. unless a bc is better than at least .1 in any given caliber it doesn't mean squat. The age old debate continues, which is better for predator hunting, the .223 Remington or the .22-250 Remington? Maximum range is 600 yards. 100 grain SP on top of Varget dropped it like a wet sack of do-do. The 69 thru 90 gr .224 bullets are used, they break thru the .4 bc barrier, and while over all velocity is slower the windrift is less. 6mm's and only 3 ea. ... 220 Swift AI, 22-250 or the 22-250 AI. I hope your girls have fun and good luck this season. Calibers run the gamut from the smallest vermin to the larger predators: .204 Ruger, .22-250 Rem, .223 Rem, .243 Win, 6.5 Creedmoor, .260 Rem … Bolt action rifles, lever action, pump action, self loading rifles and other miscellaneous longarms. The bullet offerings of 40-50 years ago weren't what they are today - for example a 223 firing a 40 grain tipped bullet runs right with a 22-250 firing an old 52 grain hpbt. Offering almost 3,700 fps of predator-dropping velocity with a 55-grain projectile, a.22-250 gives around 12 percent more speed and 20 percent more ft-lbs of impact energy than a.223 with the … 223 vs 22-250 for roos. Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3. heavy bullets in 6mm work well, with fast twist also, very high bc. I can go look up specifics again if anyone would like. I would also like to disclaim that my statement that there's no .224 55 grain varmint bullet with a better BC than .276 is from looking previously years ago. Thus, powder charge is the main difference between 5.56 vs .223 cartridges. The 223 is quite adequate for these size animals at 250 yards and under. The shooter wants good barrel life and more Horsepower than a 223 for launching 75 grain bullets. First I would pick what style gun you want, if its an AR for sure then you are restricted to the calibers that are available, 22-250 not being one. Of note; a 22 cal shooting heavy bullets in 7/8 twist barrels should do well too, problem is, no one makes them that way except, maybe, Cooper or some place like that. Tikka makes a 1-8 twist 223 also. and .25-06 Rem. The main differance I found in comparing the two calibers was in drop and drift. There is nothing worng with the 223 WSSM but the 22-250 is easy to come by, everybody makes ammo for it, and it is a truly accurate round. Therefore, 5.56mm NATO ammo isn’t safe for use in a rifle chambered for .223 Remington, but .223 is OK in 5.56. First, the .204 Ruger shoots the smallest bullet: .204″ (5.2mm) compared to the .224″ (5.7mm) bullets used by the other three. If You ... .243 Win. I am better at judging distance than wind, so I like the .243 better. However, the fact still stands that a .243 55 grain ballistic tip has a slightly higher BC at .276, with the ability to easily push it faster. It already came with a Leupold vx3 4.5-14x and a harris bipod. To each their own. Varminting and vertebrate pest control. I will keep my 22-250. I remember when 55 grain tipped 24 caliber bullets came out; before that there was a gap in good bullets which gave the big 22s a place of their own. My choice in guns is limited to two, Rem 700 Varmint or the Win mod 70 Stealth (Super accurate) Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to … 243's. What's the fire say? Not so much, in the 21st century. .22-250 vs .223. I told him the .223 is a good caliber choice, but does lack the longer range knockdown he's looking for, plus the wind can start to wreak havoc past a couple hundred yards. Wait. A better set of choices would be the .223 vs 22-250. It has uses in military, sporting, and hunting. 223 Vs 22-250 Vs 243... Post Reply : Page < 1 2: Author: Message Topic ... the fact still stands that a .243 55 grain ballistic tip has a slightly higher BC at .276, with the ability to easily push it faster. #Subject: .222 vs .223 vs .22-250 vs .220 swift vs .243 for Range/Accuracy #Date: 1 Aug 1994 17:53:02 -0400. I have the 243 model and it's an outstanding rifle for the money. at the time the 40 round white box Winchester USA 45 grain JHP was $17! Aug 19, 2011 #4 S. Sully2 Well-Known Member. I have the 243 model and it's an outstanding rifle for the money. Despite being the second owner and shooting hundreds of rounds and using it as my primary prairie dog gun for 3 trips out west it still shoots better than me. Re: 223 vs 22-250 vs 243 HELP!! The action, stock and scope stay intact). I absolutely love the 22-250, but my goodness... For the price of the ammo you would feel like a fool for owning one over a 223. It seems to me the 24 cal's are more versitle than the 22's. As far as the ongoing 243/22 cal topic, I feel it comes down to what the purpose of the rifle is. Funny how some folks reading the internet, feel superior to other folks reading the internet... Re: Why a 22-250, when a 243 does the same? This means my 10% statement isn't correct. If so, the .223 is going to offer the cheapest ammo. .222, .223, .22-250, .220 swift and #.243. The 223 is quite adequate for these size animals at 250 yards and under. Choosing between a fast twist 22-250 and a 243 which is the better choice and why. I said either a .22-250 or .243 would be a good choice. Thats the setup I have, except, instead of a 243 WIN I have a 6mm Remington. The Winchester website has a nice balicstic calculator. I think the 22-250 beats the 223 this is why. The heavy bullets and fast twist have really bought the 22 cal into its own but to the same extent, it has for the 6mm too. Out of courisoty, what bullet/barrel twist combo are you using in your Swift? While that's not an issue for you and I, it can be a deal a deal breaker for a 7 year old. 223 vs. 22-250 GUESTS. They're really completely different. The 22-250 has proven itself for many years now, and keeps on doing it. The 22-250 is a great round as is the 243, the 223 just doesn't do it for me. The .22-250 is flater than the .243, but the .243 resists wind better. In my experience, the 22 250 is far superior if you plan on shooting beyond approximately 250 yards at coyote sized varmints / predators. For hunting and shooting coyotes and varmints, the 22-250 is hard to beat. Never cared much for the 243 as they seem to burn barrels out too soon. Small game, hunting feral goats, foxes, dogs, cats, rabbits etc. , but it still doesn't beat my swift. All have their advantages/disadvantages. I think the Handi-Rifle comes with a 1:9 in 223. Is money an issue? I did have a custom barreled 6-284 that shot light bullets really well. The .223 … If barrel heat, cost of shooting and equal performance to say 500 yds is the concern, the 204 wins. I like the 243 better, based on bullet choice from 55- 105, varmint to deer. 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