A .243 will wear you down during extended shooting, the recoil and muzzle blast will just tire you out after a couple of hours of shooting if not sooner. This does come at the expense of more (though not excessive) recoil and muzzle blast though. First off, debate of this topic can get fairly heated, but for safety’s sake it is wise to shoot only .223 rounds out of a .223 barrel and likewise with the 5.56. If anyone is willing to take me shooting the 243 I will be eternally grateful. , Comments have to be approved before showing up, © 2021 Foundry Outdoors - All Rights Reserved, Product successfully added to your Shopping Cart, 223 WSSM Winchester Super Short Magnum Ammo, 243 WSSM Winchester Super Short Magnum Ammo, 25 WSSM Winchester Super Short Magnum Ammo, 300 RSAUM Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum Ammo, 7mm RSAUM Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum Ammo, .223 Remington vs .243 Winchester Ammo Comparison - Ballistics Info & Chart. As Chuck Hawks notes in his great recoil table, the .223 Rem. Campfire Guide. 22=250's CAN burn out a barrel faster than a 223 will, depending on the velocity of ammo used, and frequency of use. double in price. Ballistics Cartridges Shooting. Flashing tails, leaping legs, long necks and there! Fire a 120-grain in the 7mm-08 at 3100 fps to get 17.5 f-p at 12.7 fps. As you can see, there is a considerable difference between the .270 and the others. But you're still talking about 10-11 ft lbs of recoil, which isn't much. This is a good illustration of the recoil. The ideal coyote hunting cartridge is flat shooting, highly accurate, and won’t ruin pelts. One way to think about this is as such: a foot-pound is a unit of energy equal to the amount of energy required to raise a weight of one pound a distance of one foot. For more detailed ballistics information please refer to the exact round in question or contact the manufacturer for the pertinent information. yukonal. Diving deeper, Winchester says it has nearly 63% less recoil than the 450 Bushmaster, 18% less than .243 Win, and 11% less than 30-30 Win. As I’ve stated before: the .223 Remington and .308 Winchester are both solid rifle cartridges. The .243 Win. I have to ask however if you are ever going to decide to hunt with it? I guess I’ll just have to own both. A .223 will hammer deer with the right pill, but a .243 will hammer even harder with the right bullet. 6mm-223 (75 at 2950) 7.5: 4.6: 0: 6mm Norma BR (95 at 2914) 8.5: 5.9: 6.7: … 223 and use a Barnes for the deer. I’d call action availability a draw. True “knock-down power” depends on your bullet’s construction and minimum velocity, your cartridge, and your barrel length. I like that .243 has substantially more ft. lbs of energy. As far as a hunting cartridge goes the .243 is one of the most versatile cartridges there are. has slightly less range in terms of bullet weights (40 grain to 75 grain), but it covers basically the same ground. 67 posts • Page 1 of 3 • 1, 2, 3. Mag. are identical, the .223 will have slightly less recoil because of the lower powder weight for a … Flicking that lever will run five rounds from the tubular magazine through the action and down the barrel as fast as a running buck could flash through gaps in the trees. Don't discount the .243 Winchester as a long range cartridge. are synonymous with both deer and varmint hunting, so we decided to pit them against each other to see who comes out on top. I shot lots of 223, but not the 243 and I am interested in recoil and noise. “Shootability” is a broad term we’re using to mean “how available is this caliber and how comfortable is it to shoot?”. When looking at the .22LR vs .223, the truth is that the .223 is, in fact, a .22 caliber round. is a necked-down .308 Win., so it holds nearly twice as much powder as the .223 Rem. 204 vs 223 vs 22-250 vs 243. The 243 has more recoil than either 223 or 22-250. Oct 19, 2020 #13 As Chuck Hawks notes in his great recoil table, the .223 Rem. Equally important to the gun you choose is a good scope with sufficient eye relief. The latter two are more common, but Henry makes a sweet lever gun called the “Long Ranger” in both calibers. Here’s a look at three of the best. It even has over 14% more energy than 300 Blackout, 15% more than 30-30 Win, and 49% more than .223 Rem. This is enough difference and enough recoil for the .308 to throw off shots during the pull. Shooting forum Centerfire rifles. Both the .22-250 and .220 Swift are very flat shooting, retain more kinetic energy, and have less wind drift than the .204 Ruger and .223 Remington. In this comparison, the .243 Win. Use anything from 55gr pills for the small stuff up to 95gr pills which are hard hitting for bigger things. The .260 is less recoil than the .308, and is 1000 yard capable. My wife has a .243 stainless tikka that we cut the stock down and added a limbsaver pad. I'm looking for a caliber that can reach out to 500 yards when needed and touch a varmint. Some of my spots are in semi urban areas (yes legal to shoot a rifle), so the less noise the better. for about 30 cents per round, now you’ll be lucky to find anything in stock below 60 cents. I think you let him try the 30/30 and if that works, and you want to buy him a youth model rifle then the.243 would be perfect. We were looking at nearly double the recoil energy of the .308 compared to some .243 rounds. But for purposes of this comparison, I’d give the edge to the .243 Win. While the media loves to portray this as a ‘huge assault bullet’ and only meant for use in warfare, the truth is that a .223 round is a relatively small and not particularly powerful. Shooters who would never think of shooting a .416 Rem. Ballistics, as they say, are king, so I’m giving the ultimate nod to the .243 Win. If you’re up for … Coyote Cartridges: .223 Rem. BTHP T2 TAP 5.56 NATO. As a rule of thumb, when it comes to hunting, muzzle energy is what many hunters look at when deciding on what caliber of firearm / ammunition to select. Anonymous. load will reliably kill a deer out to 500 yards. [Re: … For this reason, we are going to spend a little time discussing it in the context of the 6.5 Creedmoor vs .243. The recoil is still no problemo. Re: 223 vs 243 vs 270 by duncan61 » Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:05 pm Ive never shot a 270 but I have shot the 30/06.The ballistics are nearly at 7mm rem so Its got some go Federal’s 55-grain Trophy Cooper, for example, has a minimum velocity for full expansion of only 1,800 fps. A 243 has more powder, 25 gr 223 vs ~38-40 for 243. It's also 1000 yard capable, and has low recoil , lower than the .260 Rem. Generally speaking, (very generally; calm down, everyone) a .223 Rem. Anybody got advice on 223 vs 243 vs 270?I'm after target, but more so game (vermin) at goat or medium boar size...Cheers and happy shooting!!P. Don't discount the .243 Winchester as a long range cartridge. We have a variety of deals on Rifle Ammo, Handgun Ammo, Shotgun Ammo & Rimfire Ammo, as well as ammo for target practice, plinking, hunting, or shooting competitions. The .223 Rem. The .223 is a great varmint round and is cheaper to shoot that the .243 is a classic Army brat. Written By Ron Spomer The sun was on the Nebraska horizon and a Mossberg 243 Winchester bolt-action was on my shoulder when a herd of November whitetails exploded from a copse of trees and scattered into the Sandhills. Then of course there’s the long range rock star competitive round 6.5 Creedmoor against the .223/5.56 combat load issue of the military and well known among recreational shooters. cartridges as “available” to order online: the 53-grain Varmint and Predator and the 69 grain Gold Medal Match. Just my 2 cent. Whatever you do make sure you get a stock that fits her. It’s better suited for varmint hunting than big game hunting, but a 62-grain Fusion or even a 55-grain Trophy Copper would reliably take down a whitetail given proper shot placement. Then of course there’s the long range rock star competitive round 6.5 Creedmoor against the .223/5.56 combat load issue of the military and well known among recreational shooters. Comparing both cartridges in 7.5 pound rifles, the .223 firing a 62 grain bullet at a 3,020 fps. When it comes to availability, it’s always good to bet on the NATO caliber. There’s no shame in admitting and owning this. Shootability Capable of using the same bullets that the .22-250 and .220 Swift were pushing, the .223 gave a respectable and useable trajectory, with less recoil, in a smaller package. Ballistically speaking, these calibers would be cousins rather than brothers. Remember that. Latest. The .223 Rem. If you want a hunting rifle that's incredibly accurate with very little recoil, a .243 is all you need. Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by browning308, Feb 10, 2011. Cartridge Type: Rifle Height: 2.045" Width: 0.473" Average FPS: 3179 Average Energy: 1952 Average Gr: 87 Recoil: 1.25 Power Rank: 2.77 of 20 . What I want is a lighter cal rifle that is a pleasure to shoot and still can take white tailed size game. This section is as clear of a decision as any other category we will discuss on the .243 vs .308. Above that recoil becomes increasingly intrusive. Well, that’s going to depend on a couple of parameters, and your … 6.5 Creedmoor vs 223 Inside the gun community there are always talks about which is the better caliber, such as .308 vs the .243 or 9mm against the .45 ACP. Again, the above is for comparative information purposes only, and you should consult the exact ballistics for the particular .223 Remington or .243 Winchester cartridge you're looking at purchasing. Recoil will be affected by the load and the rifle, but here is some general info on recoil energy..243 - about 8lbs.260 - about 10lbs.257 - about 10lbs.25-06 - about 12.5lbs.270 - about 18lbs. This post was edited on 1/12 at 5:32 pm The major difference deals less with size and more with pressure. Your best bet would be a bolt action 223 since ammo is so prevelent and inexpensive, compare prices of 223 and 22-250 and you'll see what i mean. +1 223 has no recoil I may be wrong because only 243 I've ever fired was loud as hell and booted like hell bit it was a … MN. The prices on Federal’s website don’t appear to have risen, but elsewhere I’ve seen .223 Rem. However, since the difference between them (223 vs 308) is pretty big in certain respects, each cartridge is better suited to specific situations than the other. Since this year is such an anomaly (I hope), I’m going to give the overall nod in this category to the .223 Rem. The .243 Win. Note that the most powerful shotgun loads generate recoil comparable to elephant rifle cartridges. A .243 Win. Still, when comparing cartridges, foot-pounds of energy is a helpful way of describing the weight of a projectile and how fast it’s moving. I wouldn't worry about it. But you're still talking about 10-11 ft lbs of recoil, which isn't much. But this is not a normal year. Shot placement has to be surgically precise with a 223 on deer sized game and a 243 with good bullets is a lot more forgiving. Recoil. The .223 was also chambered in many bolt-action hunting rifles, showing fine accuracy. Campfire Guide. That gun’s modern military counterpart, the 5.56 NATO, has been in continuous use by militaries around the world since the early 1960s. Sniper. Where before this year you could find .223 Rem. I've fired both and the 22-250 typically has more recoil because I shoot faster loads in it. Both the .22-250 and .220 Swift are very flat shooting, retain more kinetic energy, and have less wind drift than the .204 Ruger and .223 Remington. 223 and use a Barnes for the deer. 22-250 vs 223 vs 204 Ruger vs 220 Swift: Ammunition Selection But what, you might wonder, are some suitable “light recoil” cartridges? Still I think the 7-08 is a better overall round for big game hunting, and recoil isn't that much more than the .243. So the .223 and .243 are very different cartridges. A deer shot through the lungs with either of these light bullets isn’t going to shake it off and walk home for dinner. In terms of comfort, the .223 Rem. The ammunition is more expensive, but it’s just as common (especially these days), and I can find rifles in lots of different actions and from many different manufacturers. The .243 Win. With dozens of countries relying on the .223/5.56 to arm their infantry, there’s usually plenty of it to go around. I’m not saying your .243 Win. wins the availability battle. That is to say, .223 Remington bullets travel 3.6 times the speed of a 737 airplane at cruising speed, while .243 Winchester bullets travel 3.6 times that same speed. It is hotter than a .222 but not as hot as a .22-250, so there should be no worry about barrel wear and reduced life. 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